10th Aug, 2010, ya I don’t at all remember unusual days, no it was not at all a usual day, just day before night was completely reckless. I have to fallow up for some seats and it was till 3 am, neither I slept nor let any concern one; can say it’s a long night. But today was an easy day, while less or frankly say no work (and this very unusually happens). You know one thing coming early from work is always not good for bachelors especially when you are residing in hotels, suddenly you feel bored and find nothing to do. But today there was a match between India and Newzeland , which we loose brutally…and I was surfing channels to hear something on great Indian batting line up (which is still a miraz in absence of Sachin) suddenly I saw Verkha Dutt on a channel talking something, and as I have a great respect to her, I given few seconds to her( that’s the most common way I can pay respect because when ever I saw some famous journalist on T.V my own old ambitions started boosting of being one,,,,,,,) . And the Show was “THE BUCK STOPS HERE” with few usual politicians(which can be shown on every news show) but the thing which attracted me is the topic and some unknown faces I seen on T.V , ya that’s about Kashmir and some representatives were there…..it really felt me with great pleasure to see.. ya….There is something in India which is being considered over cricket.
I was hearing about some disturbance in Valley for last few weeks But I was as much caring about it, as I use to care about my exams in past. But I was surprised and stunned to know that more than 100 people in Kashmir has been killed in recent weeks and was really felt the severing in nerves , while seeing anger of Kashmir youth, it really made me worried. I have been to
I was just asking about the life in Kashmir, which is being known as heaven on earth…..he told me some strange facts, that there military arrests humiliates and beats you if they can found you late evening on social places and by any mean u are not been able to produce an identity card provided by government ,( though these army person use to live near by and have tea on the same tea stalls). He also added if some Military man like a lady in your home then its really tough for you. There were so many other problems which drawn my sympathy for them and I really abuse the government and system for the same. Then I asked about terrorism and he replied actually most of them are not terrorists but freedom fighters, and Kashmiri doesn’t want either to be with India or Pakistan but want a free state, the time he said that my sympathy for him and his people changed into anger, and I said to myself ; these fellow is himself a half terrorist and these are the people who want to defame our great Military. As usual we exchanged numbers for further contact, I talked to few people afterwards (who met during exhibition), but I never called to
Since then time keep on going and we become busy in other stuffs ….and senses keep enlarging bit of understanding comes in, we hear news, we read the news, we discussed news, we debated news, we concluded, we agreed on some conclusions, then we disagreed on some of them too, in the whole scene we never even thought of each others caste or religion. That changed nothing in country’s political scenario but resulted in a big way, by making a bunch of people good friends, and those also of all kind. Some are highly intellectual; some are exceptionally intelligent, some one is quite clever and good part on my side that I have been considered as one in this bunch after lacking every thing. Then one day I hear the news of fake encounters in Ghati…and picture is a bit clear in my mind. That what that old man was saying was not completely wrong if not 100% right. There is something wrong, and some people has made our patriotism sentiments as their covers, they think they can kill any one and relate them verbally to some Pakistani agency and through few weapons at their death bodies ..now the death person is terrorist…..(no one will say any thing because that will make him unpatriotic)..but time changed some people dared to ask questions…??? And believe me asking question itself answers many.. then few elections make things a bit settled down and it again escaped from every ones mind and people make themselves busy in more entertaining stuffs like IPL.
Suddenly after recent elections in
It is not a problem which can be dealt with guns …but we need our own young guns…they must be given proper respect….it is really a shame for our nation that most romantic place of world is producing or say seeding such bitter and violent youth….. its our duty now to associate all of them with us……but how? That needs to be discussed in detail? Must understand their needs…honor actual once and ethical ones and make them believe in that, other ones can also be resolved in better way..by staying in union…..there must be some unique ways to do so….
In my opinion the most important thing which can do so is educational cross breading and love. I wish more and more educational institutions open in
Our PM’s message today can be backed with some solid action then only we shall be able to associate them again and keep the family, the nation
Still there are some stunning facts or say questions to be answered, which are putting question mark on possibility of peace and are defining the anger of Kashmiri youth. I was socked to know that in last 20 years 70000 Kashimiries either being killed or missing , and that is simply huge number to understand the frustration and anger in system because all 70000 are not terrorists that is for sure. And for me this has to be questioned? But still what gives me hope is its not whole J & K behaves that way still Ladakh and
Now the Big question arises for what government waiting for? Another bloodshed? For more violence and this time from Kashmiri Pundits? Because what seems in this country is; the voice not been heard until it mixed with blood.
How much more blood it need? How much?
Just think, feel and pen down, because today we need to discuss it out, it’s the time? I am being forced up to lift my pen in mid night not by any one as but by myself? And I am sure the life conditions in valley and 70000 lives in 20 years will make you also to lift your pen. Because 3500/annum is not a less number until it’s your salary.
Rest is on you, what I have to say I have said.
Signing it off for the day.
Good night.
Well vikas the issue of kashmir is rather not geopolitical but an economic and international issue now since they are have kept away from the facilities that an average indian gets in the name of national security and the divided in the name of hindu and muslims.Not provided there basic neccesities,then the bloodshed of this sort is bound to happen because till what time can people fill their stomaches with empty and hollow promises of the politicians.Every govt just promises to do everything but doesn't do anything about the valley.No wonder we loose so many of our soldiers there because of the lack of cooperation of kashmiri people which are exasperated and terrified about the condition that has been prevailing in kashmir for the past 6 decades or so.
ReplyDeleteHi tushar..first of all let me grab the opportunity of welcoming you on my blog(since you are commenting first time),its an absolute honor to have you here,(generally i have only 2 readers).
ReplyDeletenow to your comment...well u wrote well what problem is but we are aware about problem..we need to discuss good solutions..and as per my understanding i have suggested few..now forum is open..give your precious one..i am quite sure from our discussion we will get some unique one..then i will compile that and will send to some NGO or agencies working on same....infact i am meeting some NGO's today itself..i am quite serious about that issue...so lets put down all do a brain storming and come-up with some thing... and once again thanks for visiting my blog...
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ReplyDelete@Vikas Lets start with some bashing, OK. Why don't you want me to read your blog?
ReplyDelete1. Why is the font so small that I had to magnify it in my browser window? Ok, I suggested doing some formatting of the text while posting. But this is not what I meant! I just want normal text size to be used (like ones used in your previous posts), not smaller, not larger.
2. I will keep telling you this again and again until it is sorted out... The post was full of grammatical errors and typos, which makes this excellent post less serious than it is. I request you again to preview your post before posting it on your blog.
3. Why have you said, you usually have 2 readers. You included Srijan and Katy and forgot me? I am not happy. Plus you didn't include yourself in the count. That means, you yourself don't read what you write!
Lets move to the blog post first before I comment on the content itself.
1. Well, the name of the reporter I think is Barkha Dutt not Verkha Dutt. Nobody likes her/his name spelt or pronounced wrongly.
2. Can I please see a post where you don't write anything about urself (like ur lack of intelligence etc.), everybody now knows about it. Why repeat it every time?
3. And I think you could have shorten the blog post by not actually giving unnecessary details. I mean, I know you meet only beautiful girls!
4. "Asking questions itself answers many". Beautiful thought..
Now onto the main topic itself...
ReplyDeleteThe topic of Kashmir is a really complex one. So complex that even after 60 years and numerous exchanges and intervention by some of the most powerful countries in the world, no solution seems in sight. So, I may not be fully armed with all the knowledge to comment on this topic.
But then I can give my views and be told if I am wrong... Now what I know is the people of Kashmir are certainly not happy and satisfied with the things going on. Small children (who may not even know why they are doing this) throwing stones at the Military personnels and being shot for the same, presents a gruesome and disturbing picture. And this has mainly to do with the wrong information and misgivings provided to them by elders.
I think Kashmiri people don't like having to live under constant military restrictions. They want to be able to do anything and everything that people in other parts of India can do. As Tushar pointed out, not being able to do so is causing the frustration and hence the furore.
Regarding your reservation point, well I don't think reservation itself is the answer to the problem of backwardness (views might be skewed, because I myself don't have any reservation under my name). And there is already one seat kept reserved in some of the Universities per course per college for Kashmiri Migrants. I also think that if reservation has to be given anyway, then it should reach the rightful people. Which right now is not happening.
70 thousand people killed in J&K in last 20 years? Now this is shocking revelation for me. Ok now, I don't think that everyone was killed in internal violence. Kashmir is genuinely terror-struck state. May be that figure also includes our army men who martyred serving nation and also those that may be killed by other accidents and calamities like quakes, road accidents etc. But even after taking all this into account, 70 thousand lost life doesn't get justified.
Yes like you, even I am frustrated by lack of stern action by the government on the issue. Why can't we act now rather than waiting for things to go out of hand?
But it has to do with lack of will to cooperate from Pakistan too. It is the third party involved, and no solution will be final solution if every stakeholder doesn't approve it.
And I agree with you that proper knowledge and education and love can change people's heart and squeeze out the venom of hatred. Just ignoring the problem doesn't provide solution. India is facing lot of internal crisis. Its time we start finding solutions for them.
Ok so whats the solution?..
Many people have suggested this, and I agree too that an open poll should be done to find out whose side the Kashmiri people want to be with. I know there will always be people that want a separate state or so called jehadis who want to be with Pakistan. But knowing what the majority wants should give us some road forward into the solution.
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ReplyDeleteHi Ravs..
ReplyDelete1. the font size was not my mistake i have posted it as always but it appearing small..I dont know why? ..but pointed noted and same will be taken care next time...
2.Ya i admit name was wrong i will correct it..?
3.the two readers i referring was you and katy..srijan occasionally visits..so dont worry there is nothing in life in which i can spare you ..you will always be there..
4.And on the length..actually when i was writing the picture and connections were coming in mind and i plotted it in a natural way..its the way i write.....as i thought..but since you dont like it and it make you effort more ...i am really sorry..
5. As per spellings are concern i have tried my best to take care of that...and grammar i dont know so cant do much about it.....(actually i dont understand English well so that's not my fault..i just treat it as a way to communicate...and if i am being able dont care about it much).. ..
6. thanks for appreciating the phrase ....I am really glad that there is something you like...
and ur opinions are as precise and striking as ever....so its nice to heave it...but discussion will go on ..lets have katys expert opinion also..i also have some points ..and after two of you people more will come...
well, the issue is kinda complex...the violence that is going on at present is basically limited to the kashmir valley and we should first of all get the facts straight.
ReplyDeleteJ&K is just not only kashmir valley. It consists of jammu,leh laddakh,gilgit baldistan, ethinic kashmiri bakkarwal areas etc..so if we propose autonomy for the whole of J&K then it would a grave mistake coz that is not the will of whole of J&K.
well what i think can be good solution is accept the real facts ..we feel very happy to read in our textbuks that kashmir is an integral part of india but on the ground level it is not the reality ..1/4 th part is with china , 1/2 or less than half with pakistan. so kashmir never really was an integral part of india.The indian government should accept LOC as the international border and the resources that we use on our army in kashmir and the counter insurgency operation should be used for the development of the whole of kashmir.. Economic development is the solution..autonomy is the will of a section of people who are motivated by religious fundamentalism.
well thanks for the valuable comment but katyayan dont u think..education development will be a primary step in connecting and dissolving the heart.
ReplyDeleteWell I usually subscribe to the comments so the following comments get delivered to my inbox. I don't know why I didn't get them this time.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I am glad VK, that you take my word so seriously. Thank you. And I sincerely hope you will take my criticism in good stride to make this blog even better.
Coming to what Katy said. "1/4th part is under China." Well I know for sure that at least some portion is under control of China (though they won't say). But 1/4th? I don't know.. are you sure?
ReplyDelete"The Indian Govt. should accept LOC as an international border." I don't think its a practical decision, since the ego of the country comes in between. I also don't think that any Govt. will have the guts to take this decision. Thats why there hasn't been resolution to this problem since the beginning. But, if it can bring peace and harmony in the region then I support it. I mean, losing the lifes of innocent Kashmiris and thousands of soldiers just for the false pride of keeping whole Kashmir with India isn't a smart decision according to me.
But, there is another problem with this decision. In case we comply with the LOC as an international border. Pakistan govt. (or more appropriately military) won't stop with just 'some' portion of Kashmir. Then they will want the whole state with them. The so called 'jehadis' just want more blood. They have nothing to do with jehad (freedom).
@ravs..
ReplyDeleteAlluding to an article in The New York Times, between 7,000 to 10,000 troops of China's People Liberation Army are stationed in the Gilgit-Baltistan area of Pakistan occupied Kashmir.
and yes,the occupied part is almost 1/4 th of the whole of kashmir.
as far as accepting LOC as the international border is concerned, thats the only practical solution that seems possible to me. The kashmir problem has gone out of india's hands. Without a good sellable offer on the negotiation table,it's impossible to persuade pakistan or other separatist group.
tell me, is it anyway possible that the part with pakistan will come back to us?
the answer is "no".
the biggest shocker is that " now even china is trying to be a party to the kashmir dispute."
Yeah, and tomorrow, Nepal, Sri Lanka and who knows even US may want a part of Kashmir. As if their mother have written a part of it in her will.
ReplyDeleteBut, you are right, Pakistan isn't going to give the state of J&K without any apprehension. I wish our ancestor leaders had done a better job, if they had no choice but to Partition India. I wonder if there is any piece of document or historical evidence that proves the 'ownership' of J&K.
Well, its shaping up nicely.
ReplyDelete@katy : Its a fact that some part of Kashmir has been occupied by china and they have deleted it from India's map also. But accepting the LOC as international border may be one of the best solution of this problem but it will surely in very near future will become root cause of some more complex problems.
What i still believe that you cant force someone to be in your side specially with a dictator attitude...(what India adopted in J& K)
but then i have a deep believe that u can own someone just by loosing your self to them...its actually not about area , its about people of J & K , we just have to won them with a conviction that this country its people is belongs to them, its as much theirs as it belongs to any one as in the country.
Just root and connect them to main stream India and problem will appearing to connect with a solution.
And let me remind you same problem we are going to face with seven states (assam, nagaland etc)
and that also very soon..because right now we are simply neglecting them i n term of political, cultural and socioeconomic base.
The red has already stated spreading and red signifies alarming stage.
so still i feel connect is best solution , and a very good back end work need to be done before front negotiation.
And Ravs We are expecting some solution point from you rather than blaming ancestor leaders..since they are past and we are present ...and i am sure you not want your future to repeat same words for you.
@vk..well, what u have said is absolutely right ..this menace will spread , infact it's to all parts of the country..i live here with people of north east n i know what they feel about india n indian government.Instead of delaying this whole issue, now is the time to act.
ReplyDeletepresent situation reminds me of this doha of rahim.
"rahiman dhaga prem ka mat tauro chatkaye.
toote te fir na jure, jure to gaanti pad jaaye."
there are several knots now.The wounds cannot be healed so easily..the only solution is a long term policy.
1. withdrawl of army troops.
2. removal of anti-people laws.
3. a permanent border.
"THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE SPEND ON ARMY OPERATIONS EVERY YEAR IN J&K CAN EASILY DEVELOP THE WHOLE REGION."
@VK Well I am not saying that we should run away from our responsibility of solving Kashmir (and Kashmir's) problem, I just wish there wasn't this problem at all. So, many lives could have been saved and we(hopefully) would have been cooperating and helping Pakistan rather than keeping an eye on them.
ReplyDeleteBut sometimes you do write a few things that is heart touching "u can own someone just by loosing yourself to them..."
(have I heard this somewhere before also? I don't know.)
And yeah, I agree the 7 sister states seem to be heavily neglected which may cause problems in near future (beware of Bangladesh!).
@Katy May be you are right. But if you see here India spends way too less as compared to China and no where near US http://goo.gl/oHU4V
While spending on military seems to be waste of money, it is a necessary evil.
The recent developments in Kashmir seem to be making the matter more complicated than solving it.